Friday, April 26, 2019

Orderly immigration, or Trump. Choose one.

     "If liberals insist that only fascists will defend borders, then voters will hire fascists to do the job liberals won't do."

                       David Frum, Senior editor at the Atlantic and MSNBC contributor


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A tide has turned. It is a new era.


The era of global thinking and the free movement of goods and services and people reached its apogee and is reversing. 

Humans are tribal, and their politics are expressing this reality.


There is something happening world wide, and the US is part of it. Brexit was the unmistakable signal, a heads up for the later Trump victory. 

British voters shocked the world by voting to leave the European Union, in the face of economic disruption, at a price of re-opening a border wound with Ireland, and against the warning of nearly all British expert authority.  Why? Because membership in the European Union meant uncontrolled immigration, which in Britain meant most visibly from Poland--white Christian Poles.  Immigration felt out of control.

The smart people in America saw this and dismissed it. A mistake. It couldn't be serious and it couldn't happen here in the US.  Then it did.

The phenomenon is not just in Britain. Far right nationalist parties are gaining power in the liberal democracies of Europe: La Pen in France, Salvini in Italy, the Freedom Party in Hungary. 

Riot police protected school buses.
Israel just voted a new Basic Law clarifying that it is not a multinational democracy: Israel is for JewsChina is openly and proudly intimidating its Muslim Uighur minority. 

I witnessed tribalism in the US most personally in Boston in the 1970s, where the prosperous settled into enclaves of money--nice neighborhoods--and the less prosperous settled into enclaves of ethnicity. There were Irish neighborhoods, Italian neighborhoods, Black neighborhoods. The clustering was so dramatic that the courts had to mandate busing children from one neighborhood to others to integrate the schools.  People panicked. The battle cry was "neighborhood schools."

World wide, we are seeing voters express their concern about the current levels of immigration and global economic union. Too much, too fast. No limits. So we are seeing backlash and a reversal of the policies of globalism.

The USA has a problem and a solution. It is the melting pot. It works, but not quickly.

In the mid 19th Century the Irish were considered "foreign" and unwanted, but then, after a generation or two, they became Americans--on the "inside" of America, not the outside. In the early 20th Century they were sufficiently American--"white"--that they opposed immigration from southern Europe--Greeks and Italians. Those southern Europeans--and Jews--were the scary outsiders then. But after a generation or two, those foreigners became Americanized, and the notion of "American" came to include them. 

Pizza isn't foreign anymore. It got melted into the pot.

Immigration is at same percentage as 1900-1930
We are at a period of heightened immigration numbers, with most coming from Latin America and Asia. This makes some people uneasy--as has always been the case in America. (Meanwhile, darker skinned Muslims are moving from south to north into Europe, causing the worry there.) 

Will those darker skinned foreigners add to America or destroy it by changing it?  

History gives us an answer: In the long run, the melting pot will work in America, because our democracy still works and those immigrants and their children will have voting power and equal rights and will be Americans. The culture will evolve to Americanize and include them. "Chinese food," and "Thai food" didn't destroy American taste in food. It added to it. 

There is a risk for Democrats: Over-learning opposition to group identity. Joe Biden's opening video reflects a potential conflation within Democratic messaging: that group identity among whites equals racism. Sometimes it does, but not always. I know from experience and observation: first and second generation Greeks like Greek food and music and speak Greek among themselves. It isn't prejudice. It is culture. Their grandchildren speak no Greek, but eat baklava. They are Americans.

There needs to be some middle ground where Democrats recognize that the melting pot works--and should be allowed to work--but that social change is slow, and it is inevitable that humans want to protect the familiar in their culture and they have pride in it. 

The political solution is available for Democrats: allow immigration, even lots of immigration, but make clear there are rules to it, and limits attached to it, and be visible in enforcing those rules. Assure the nervous that this is an area where Democrats recognize that immigration creates some problems, but they are on top of this. 

There is an idea floating around within Democratic constituencies that pride in ones culture is unacknowledged "racism," and that it needs to be called out. There two problems with that. One is that liking ones familiar culture and not wanting it disrespected is universal.  

The second is that this is a democracy. "Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed." A majority of Americans will accept controlled immigration--do in fact accept controlled immigration. But they won't tolerate being called deplorable or racist, and they won't accept uncontrolled immigration, which they interpret as a foreign invasion. If they perceive invasion they will exercise their democratic power, as they are doing all over the world, and vote for people who will protect them.

The Democrat who can beat Trump will be the one who says he or she will control immigration, sensibly but firmly.  Otherwise Democrats will lose another election to Trump.







[Note: I am pro-immigrant. I think we need more immigrants in America. It is powerful medicine for America, but needs to be handled as such.]




7 comments:

Rick Millward said...

It's utterly specious to talk about immigration without acknowledging why tens of thousands of Latin Americans are fleeing their countries and seeking refuge in the United States. This is not immigration, it is people desperately escaping genocide. No wall will stop what is likely to become a bigger issue and costly problem unless we adopt a strategy that includes bringing law and order to those countries. Democrats should make this connection if only to point out the shallowness of the Trumplican bleating about "open borders". If they don't they are missing an opportunity.

Witness Somalia. As the government disintegrated and criminal elements became more powerful and unrestrained people gave up and joined or fled for their own survival. Nazi Germany...Syria...

Immigration as a political issue is useful to Regressives because it's an easy appeal to racism. It provides an easy "other" to fear monger against.

Thad Guyer said...

Give it up Peter, enforcing U.S. immigration law to control illegal entry and visa overstays will not be debated in the primaries until we're down to two candidates. Until then, all rhetoric will be "we are a welcoming country and we must nation build in Latin America, not turn people away".

John C said...

I’m not sure this is the right forum for this but I’ll pose the question anyway since it’s now unmoderated :)

At the risk of over-contextualizing -It seems there are at least several lines of discussion, here: (1) the global immigration pressures and their causes over time; and (2) the current political discourse where we try to predict what makes candidates electable in the current climate. This seems to be the pragmatic focus of this blog and Peter focuses in on people’s self-interest, or what they think their self-interest is. But to think that electing officials who promise, and may in fact enact foreign policy that appeals to voters is the best way to actually address the voters’ wants and fears (Immigration in this case) seems to me to be naive and fruitless- and possibly very damaging.

I’m just an arm-chair observer but for over 30 years I’ve traveled and worked in dysfunctional places; and gotten to know and lose friends to violence in places like El Salvador, Congo and Niger (where I will be in two weeks). I’ve seen first-hand glimpses of the positive and negative long-term effects of US foreign policy on people’s lives and these countries. It seems me that the vast and ever-changing complexities of our immigration, humanitarian aid, military intervention and economic policies along with each country’s own unique cultural and religious dynamics is very difficult to grasp from a diplomatic perspective. And especially to determine how it a mass exodus of refugees who are going to somewhere.

So that’s the set up to my fundamental question Thad and Peter. Do you think it’s even possible, and if so what structural changes would it take for our government to actually be able to be effective at positioning our country for global good and safety and prosperity at home, when the current incentives for elected officials is to pacify or satisfy voters with simple talking points and who are prey of the many propaganda platforms?

Is that even a legitimate premise and question. Feel free to ignore if though think this is off topic, or not “up close” enough. Thanks!

Up Close: Road to the White House said...

A quick, first thought response to John Coster’s question.

Trump says he has the answer for him: a country should act on its own self interest. He says it is what everyone does anyway, secretly, and it is what we should do. It creates a free for all competition—like a good efficient market. That is how you improve the world.

It was a dramatic reversal of the multilateral, cooperation, global model, which had the effect of us getting screwed as the rich sap country, the one whose workers got screwed, too.

My sense is that the global order after 1945 worked better than the free for all order, but we nearly ended the world in 1962 in the Cuban Missile Crisis, so we shouldn’t praise the multilateral cooperation piece too naively. And we just got a lesson in what it feels like to be on the receiving end of foreign interference in our government. I would now say that anything we do beyond clearly humanitarian aid will likely be resented terribly, so don’t do it. The “ white man’s burden” was to be hated by those we tell ourselves we are serving. Kipling wrote that over a century ago about Britain. We could finally learn that.

Thad Guyer said...

Here's my answer. There are 435 congressional districts, each representing about 750,000 people without regard to legal immigration status. 12 million illegal immigrants en grosse equals about 15 congessional seats, and in actual distribution gives Democrats a handful of seats in California, Illinois and New York. Illegal immigrants can't directly vote but they hold constituent sway in 8-10 districts, and growing rapidly. Illegal immigration translates to additional Congressional seats for Democrats every 10 census years, hence the big Supreme Court battle this year over the census citizenship question. Because Democrats are rewarded by illegal immigration with quantifiable direct political power, and the GOP is rewarded with cheap underground labor (and the resulting indirect political power), there is no genuine resolve in Congress to pursue mythical "immigration reform". Except for the unpleasant humanitarian toll that periodically flares up on the border, illegal immigration is only about politics and money. It's going to stay that way.

John C said...

Thad- very insightful thanks. But the forces that drive refugee immigration are still not addressed. In my experience, most people who live in poor but peaceful countries actually prefer to stay there unless forced by war, famine or real threats to their lives. In most traditional societies family and community are more valued than material prosperity. This is just my observation from living among them. Since the Marshall Plan the US has used foreign aid helps keep unstable places stable because it serves our interests. Here’s a good article to describe it https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/how-does-us-spend-its-foreign-aid . Here’s an interesting anecdote that may illustrate the complex interrelationship between our economy, security and immigration. I was involved in rural development in El Salvador after the end of the 10-year civil war. The wealth of the country was concentrated in a 14-family oligarchy. Most of the country was made up of poor subsistence farmers on rented land. My group purchased land and extended a loan to a group of farmers who could repay based on their crop yields. They were now proud land-owners who through hard work and skill, grow and sell their corn, rice, beans and other cash crops. Except none of them could compete with the low market price of imported grains from the US that came in the form of US aid, that was actually paid to US farmers. I saw this in Niger, West Africa too. Over time, their ability to sustain themselves diminishes and they become perpetually dependent on the US. And there are no margins. When the smallest shift starts to destabilize an area, power gets concentrated in gangs or despotic leadership and the general population becomes the victim. They endure until they can’t and then they flee or die. Now I’m not saying that USAID and our policies are the culprit. But it is a substantial lever. So when an administration wants to simply cut foreign aid to ‘shit hole’ nations..... we have some culpability in creating the current situation where we have Africans refugees on our southern border. Immigration Reform is like talking Tax Reform or Campaign Finance Reform, or Healthcare Reform. Everyone talks about them like they are easy, Immigration Reform is more than who gets to come into the US.

Judy Brown said...

The Democrat who can beat Trump will be the one who says he or she will control immigration, sensibly but firmly.

Obama tried this.....