Saturday, February 17, 2024

Disgorging ill-gotten gains

Trump: "But the banks were repaid!"

The Law: That doesn't matter. You committed fraud.

I watched Donald Trump on television last night. He stood in a doorway and said the fine he was assessed was unfair. I did nothing wrong, he said. The banks were repaid! Nobody lost a penny! 

I had a 30-year career as a financial advisor. One principle I learned early was the policy of disgorgement. There was a simple rule of the road: You can never, ever profit from a mistake.

From time to time a financial advisor will make a trading error, for example buying the wrong stock, selling when he should have bought, or buying or selling the wrong amount of something. Mistakes are easy to make if you are working quickly. For example, you have been talking with a client about buying either Microsoft or Apple, and the client decides on Apple. But Microsoft was in your head and you accidentally buy Microsoft instead of Apple. If you catch your mistake an hour later, possibly Microsoft went up and Apple went down -- a lucky error. The office adjusts the two prices back to what they should have been, making a profit on each side of the trade. The advisor never gets to keep that profit. You never profit from an error.

If markets go the other way and Apple goes up and Microsoft goes down, then one has two unfortunate errors at once. One needs to buy Microsoft at the higher price and credit the client with the correct lower price, and one needs to sell the Microsoft at a loss and pay the difference. The Advisor always pays for the losses to make the client whole.

It is simple: Errors can cost you but never help you. So one learns to be careful.

Trump argues that "no one got hurt." Banks loaned Trump money and they got paid back. No harm, no foul, right? No. Trump provided fraudulent statements, thus establishing the error. The law sets the ground rules. Don't lie on loan documents. Banks set loan interest rates based in part on the creditworthiness of the borrower. Banks were harmed by underpricing the loans to him. How much they were harmed determines the amount of disgorgement. What matters is the original fraud, not whether the unpriced risk came to a bad end.

Sometimes events disguise harm. Consider an insurance agent who takes a fire insurance deposit from a homeowner, but instead of depositing it with the insurance company, chooses to pocket the money, leaving the person uninsured and unaware of it.  Fires are rare. Perhaps the year passes and the homeowner had no fire and no claim, and never knew he was uninsured. No harm, no foul? Of course not. That homeowner was harmed. He had an unwanted, unpaid risk of financial catastrophe.

The law on fraud and disgorgement is designed to reduce temptation to cheat and hope that events or markets work out for you and the person you cheated. That's how the law works. That's how it should work. The courts computed Trump's unjust benefit from his fraudulently-priced loans and added penalties and interest, just as the law directs.

Disgorgement deters financial crime. Others see Trump's predicament and recalculate the cost-benefit ratio of fudging numbers on loan documents.  

Trump is a cautionary example. He serves America by getting caught and paying the price.



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13 comments:

Dave said...

Golly, Trump committing fraud, a person who lies constantly. I’m guessing he has committed fraud all his life, but has gotten away with it. Poor Trump, being held accountable for his behavior.

Mike Steely said...

Peter, you compare Trump’s fraudulent statements to errors by financial advisors, but an error is a mistake. Trump’s fraud was deliberate and committed over years.

Combined with the amount he was fined for defaming the lady he sexually assaulted, he now owes over half a billion dollars. It couldn’t have happened to a more deserving guy.

It’s worth noting that a GoFundMe page has been started to raise money for his fine. I thought that’s what his PACs were for, but this is good. It will give us a numerical figure for how stupid his supporters are. Judging by how his NFT trading cards sold, I’d say very stupid but we’ll see. Maybe he’ll come out with a new line of cards showing him beating up dastardly villains like the Capitol police, Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce.

Malcolm said...

Assuming the multi million dollar penalty stands, will Trump simply ignore the judgement? What then?

Ed Cooper said...

According to Reuters, if he fails to pay, he could be charged with Contempt, and hit with even more fines. I also think perhaps his New York properties could be seized, but perhaps some if tye Attorneys who read this blog could chime in ?

Phil Arnold said...

To answer Malcolm:

If the judgment stands and he ignores the judgment, the company's assets will be sold by court order, up to the extent of the judgment and costs of sale. It is likely that there are enough assets to satisfy the judgment.

The same execution on judgment procedure is available for Ms. Carroll's judgments.

This procedure is implemented by the plaintiffs in the case, so an unpaid judgment will not languish.

Peter c. said...

And the kids got fined $4 million each. "Say, Dad, could you loan me $4 million? I'll pay it back, I promise." "Sorry, Junior, I'm a little short right now."

Ed Cooper said...

Thank you, Phil Arnold.
What if those properties are mortgaged to the hilt ? What happens then ?

Brian1 said...

Oh, wonderful preponderance of evidence. The old "we think he cheats so he [likely] cheated this time." Now it goes to appeal, where "clear and convincing" determines the actual outcome of the case, and circular reasoning isn't admissible.

They conveniently left out what was said long ago about the penthouse valuation, that there is likely a shared ownership in an association outside of the living space. He could literally own the whole floor as a business then lease space to himself as an individual.

Funny how exculpatory details aren't considered by the lower civil court thanks to that magical preponderance of evidence standard.

If this were a criminal case it would have been dismissed for that crap. Sit tight, peeps. You'll finally get Trump some day.

Mike said...

It's always interesting to see how the minds of Trump apologists work. Here's the GoFundMe website, for those who feel he's being persecuted:
https://www.gofundme.com/f/stand-with-trump-raise-the-settlement

No doubt he'd rather be selling them the Brooklyn Bridge, but he can't do business in New York for a few more years.

Mike said...

If tRump is unable or unwilling to pay, New York should take over tRump Tower and turn it into a shelter for immigrants.

Anonymous said...

Where did you go to law school, Brian1? Bob’s Garage Tech School or Trump U?
There isn’t a different burden of proof at the appellate level, which only reviews for errors of law.

Mc said...

The media in this country sucks.

TFG plans to appeal.

Reporters should ask "on what grounds" as an appeal isn't just a do-over.

Mc said...

You should sign up for what's left of TFG's legal team.
It surely couldn't make that clown car any worse.

Owing a half-billion dollars is not my definition of "winning".