"Peter, this is French Revolution stuff. The left is eating its own. You need to be careful. Everyone needs to be careful."
Guest Post: Anonymous
I had warned readers that a jury might find Derek Chauvin "not guilty."
I got a warning in return. Don't dare suggest the possibility a reasonable, conscientious juror could consider Chauvin not guilty of a race-motivated homicide.
On Saturday I wrote that the jurors might not convict the police officer whose knee was on the neck of George Floyd. A mid-career lawyer sent me the Guest Post below. It was less about the merits of the case than it was about the woke, politically engaged left.
She said she thought she was a reliable liberal. She warned me about the Twitter mob. She had received some early warnings within her own workplace, a law firm that does substantial civil rights work. She is an associate on partner track. She warned that anything that did not seem sufficiently point-of-the-spear "woke" might garner accusations of closet racism and un-raised consciousness from young, very vigilant lawyers and staff. Their opinions matter because senior partners in her firm--and others like it--are loath to disagree or dismiss their comments lest they, too, face accusations. My correspondent says everyone walks on eggshells. What was commonplace to think and say five years ago will today get you knocked off partner track, or outright fired. Worse, you carry a stink that wrecks your career: Fired for being a racist. "You don't get over that," my correspondent said.
"Please don't use my name," she asked. "The guillotines are for us."
Guest Post by Anonymous
"Please don't use my name," she asked. "The guillotines are for us."
Guest Post by Anonymous
As a practicing attorney on the East Coast with substantial felony public defender experience, I can only post this anonymously due to the serious risks of cancel culture. It no longer makes any difference what a person's career or background has been in defending the oppressed, a single transgression of what we are all expected to say can destroy a career. We are expected to say that it is 100% clear that the police officer who knelt on Mr. Floyd's neck is guilty of second degree murder and that only racist jurors in an institutionally racist criminal justice system could account for any verdict other than a guilty verdict for second degree murder. We are expected to proclaim that a verdict of only third degree murder, or worse second degree manslaughter, would be irrefutable evidence of a racist system. I note that one of your readers has already suggested that street violence might be appropriate if the officer is not convicted.However, most experienced criminal defenders and prosecutors believe that the case against the police officer is obviously weak from the publicly available evidence for the reasons you posted, and that the chances of the police officer getting a fair trial are very unlikely. The chances of a hung jury by one or two holdout jurors looms large. A complete acquittal seems almost impossible no matter the evidence. Of course, the only reason that the appeals court battle was waged by prosecutors over adding a third degree murder charge, called a "lesser included offense", is the belief by prosecutors that they don't have evidence beyond a reasonable doubt that the officer intentionally caused Mr. Floyd's death. Their hope is that juror holdouts on second degree murder can be pressured to at least convict on that lesser charge if for no reason other than to prevent Minneapolis from being burned down. The "lesser included offense" of second degree manslaughter is the prosecution's desperation card if they can't get the jury to conclude the officer acted "intentionally" to cause death. If there is just a manslaughter conviction or a hung jury, it will almost certainly be the end of the careers of the judge and prosecutors. Their chances of passing the political scrutiny for promotion to elevated judgeships and prosecutorial jobs would be nil.Trial by mob and conviction by Twitter are alive and well in America in 2021. However, there is nothing new about media mobs in America history driven by public outrage demanding punishment no matter what. Thankfully, there is such a small number of these celebrated cases that they don't present a significant threat to regular order in the criminal justice system, which regularly convicts a small number of innocent defendants, even sentences them to death. 90% of criminal defendants plead guilty because they are guilty. Furthermore, there is a safeguard built into the appellate process-- delay and review by judges who have already reached the highest levels of their profession. If this police officer is wrongly convicted he has a good chance of having that conviction overturned within a couple of years by the majority on the U.S. Supreme Court. By that time, the public passions of the moment will have been eclipsed by subsequent controversial police killings.
What is new in American history is an electronic social media mob that can act instantaneously in passing judgments meting out severe career damage with little information beyond the tweets and posts they just read. In my world, I am expected to mimic a deeply held belief that the officer is guilty of intentional murder, before the trial even begins, and long before all the evidence is made public. What is new is the consensus that reasoned public debate based on the evidence is not just superfluous, but subversive.
7 comments:
Living through the OJ trial daily news commentary has poisoned my mind towards the media coverage of sensational high profile defendants receiving justice. The right of the accused to be considered innocent before law is the cornerstone of our legal system. I’m not on the jury in this trial. The prosecutor and defense attorney are not presenting their case to me or the media. I will accept the verdict of the jury. The defendant, if convicted, does not lose their right to an appeal. Show trials running continuously allow the viewer to tune in and tune out. The viewer’s attention is not the same as the jury. A viewer can hear and see enough to form an opinion and tune out everything else, allowing group think to cloud their mind. The result is not justice for the defendant. The defendant in this case has become the embodiment of society’s treatment of our black and brown population and the media wants a conviction because... well we’ve all seen the video and the country rose up as one to protest what they saw when police use force. Therefore the only possible outcome is a conviction on all charges. Then society can pat itself on the back and say we atoned for all the past injustice against our black and brown population. We’re looking for a feel-good moment at the expense of a fair and just trial.
I don't think the OJ trial, or Rodney King or any of the other sensationalist events in recent times are the metric we should be using to judge our society. They could have been adjudicated out of the public eye, as are the thousands of cases that flow through the judicial system every day. Just because you are looking at something doesn't mean it is any more important in the larger sense than anything else.
Every case is a tragedy, and we diminish ourselves when we value one more than another. Is the George Floyd killing any more important than the others that weren't filmed and subsequently sensationalized? Televising this trial is a kind of voyeurism I'd just as soon avoid; really bad reality TV, "Dateline" without the cheesy narration. It's the modern equivalent of the public execution, speaking of guillotines.
The media makes it's choices based on revenue. This includes social media, where the currency is clicks and likes, and we are exposed to a lot of stupidity.
We all have our opinions, and this trial will pass with likely very few satisfied with the outcome. I have my doubts that whatever happens will make that much difference in the ongoing struggle for equality and social justice, as did the other TV spectacles.
Just filling air time...
The Guest Post by Anonymous was a brilliant analysis by someone who understands the present system and the near impossibility of achieving a verdict that is meaningful in terms of settling the issue.
Perhaps our energies would be better expended by overhauling a system that overburdens policing organizations to a point far beyond their capabilities, constantly expecting them to act appropriately and expertly in confronting myriad situations for which they have no training, no empathy, no experience, and far too often a tendency to settle a minor confrontations with a death sentence. Thanks to the traditional practice of quickly sweeping dirt under the rug, the term "Criminal Justice" has been transformed into an irrefragable oxymoron. Our system of criminal justice should be the subject of this trial, not the careless, uncaring actions of inadequately trained police officers acting out their latent prejudices and fantasies.
Bob Warren
Sorry, but it’s all about the dead victim not the courts, not the cops, not the defense, not the prosecutor. He passed a fake 20 dollar bill to buy cigarettes . And he is dead. An asshole put his knee on his neck for 9:29 minutes. END OF STORY. The bystanders reported the incident with cell phones.
Woke or not we can’t look away. The whole world is watching too. Al Jazeera will broadcast and RT, BBC, French 24, and DW. ALL minorities will be watching the great United States trip over its own hypocrisy and slap this killer on the wrist cus’ that’s what we expect of our police force. “ Kill the muthafuka .” “He shouldn’t a tried to steal a pack of cigarettes, god damn it!”
The woke social media mob wants to be the American equivalent of Mao Tse Tung’s Red Guards, and the modern equivalent of the Salem witch hunters.
America needs to stand up to this viciousness. They have so far managed to destroy large parts of higher education and the mainstream media. Now they have their eyes on corporate America and our military.
Many people from former Soviet Union countries have said with regret that they recognize and remember this feeling of being afraid to speak honestly from life under communist tyranny.
It’s well past time for the rest of us to wake up and smash this movement into smithereens.
If this cop is found innocent, Minneapolis will burn to the ground.
There is some value in your guest's comments about the tyranny in some settings of "woke" policing of speech. But I'm rather astonished by her application of it to Derek Chauvin's trial. When she implies that he will be a victim of "an electronic social media mob that can act instantaneously in passing judgments meting out severe career damage with little information beyond the tweets and posts they just read," she seems to equate the video and the eyewitness testimony of the several bystanders to careless and unreliable messages such as those that animate QAnon conspiracy theorists. As far as I can see, her only legal point is that it may be difficult for the prosecution to prove that Chauvin intentionally killed George Floyd. But surely it is impossible to argue that there was any justification for Chauvin to keep kneeling on his neck for >9 minutes while Floyd and bystanders implored him to stop. I wonder, too, if your guest and those who posted comments affirming her know of Chauvin's history of misconduct on the job--it's a lengthy one. I don't know if that record will be allowed into testimony, but those of us aware of it might be forgiven if we let it influence our conclusion that Chauvin didn't care whether Floyd lived or died. If your guest believes that such views make me a part of a tyrannical "woke" mob, I would say that her legal training has failed her. I'll close by saying that what she complains about is minor compared to the on-going tyranny of racism and its enforcement by police.
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