Tuesday, July 11, 2023

War and Peace in Ukraine: Part three of three

Guest Post:

A warning to Ukraine. The U.S. has its own interests. It is an imperial power. 

Today's Guest Post concludes by reversing the polarity of the Ukraine narrative. What if America isn't the Good Samaritan bystander, looking out for the little guy?

The three-part Guest Post began with Eisenhower's warning about the business of war. Post-WWII America has been characterized by repeated involvement in wars that could go on for years because for most Americans back home life went on, business as usual. We intervened. We fought proxy wars. Our money, mostly someone else's blood. 

What if this isn't a war about Ukrainian sovereignty and a peaceful European order? What if this is another move in the chess match of empires and would-be empires, another iteration of interventions in Indochina, in the Balkans, in Afghanistan, in the oil states of the Middle East, and in Latin America? What if this war is really about our interest in isolating Russia and interrupting what had been a mutually advantageous Russian-European oil trade? 

Eisenhower warned us.

Gary Miller is Emeritus Professor of History at Southern Oregon University. He has studied and written about foreign affairs for four decades.

Gary Miller

Guest Post by Gary Miller 

The road toward the end of hostilities must begin somewhere. It makes sense to focus on negotiations after the end of the current offensive. However, it must be considered a long shot, given the intransigence of Ukraine and Russia during earlier peacekeeping efforts. 

 

Any movement in the belligerents’ current postures must account for two issues, one from each side. Russia demands that Ukraine agree not to join NATO, and Ukraine insists that Russia end its occupation of Crimea. It may be possible to begin by solving less compelling issues, such as the exchange of prisoners and recovery of human remains, but in the end, it may come down to two symbols: NATO and Crimea.

 

The comparison of WWI trench warfare to the stalemate in Bakhmut provides an image that captures some of the horrors of combat in Ukraine. A comparison could be more compelling by utilizing battles involving US forces; Vietnam: Battle of Khe Sanh (January-July 1968) and Battle of Hué (January-March 1968); Iraq: second Battle of Falluja (November 2004-January 2005), where examples of the horrors of combat are also exposed and perhaps more familiar to contemporary audiences.

 

If the Spring-Summer Offensive does not change the course of the war, what should be the form and function of diplomatic action? Herb Rothschild, in his Guest Post here, rightly distrusts the “national security establishment” to sufficiently push for peace while primarily answering to the leaders of the military-industrial complex President Dwight Eisenhower warned about half a century ago. This will come about, Rothschild wrote, by Americans pressuring their government and therefore the national security experts, to push for meaningful dialogue with first the Ukrainians (America’s proxy) and then the Russians. 

 

But does the US still have the respect and fear of the Europeans, making it likely that if we change our minds, they will follow? After the diplomatic disasters taken by former President Trump, the Europeans are much less willing to permit American leadership than they were a few years ago. We certainly have no right to lecture the Ukrainians on what is and is not worth sacrificing for.

 

A good friend and intelligence officer who served in Vietnam reminded me recently how he viewed the Ukraine-Russia War and the ability for the Americans to lead the road to a peaceful solution. The bitter taste of the Second Indochinese War still has the people of the world suspicious of America. My friend said that it appeared to him that the current war parallels what occurred in Vietnam, with the roles of the United States and the Soviet Union (now Russia) reversed. An independent nation (South Vietnam/Ukraine) is invaded by a world power (United States/Russia) with an outside major country sitting on the sidelines (U.S.S.R./United States) in many ways reaping the benefits of a war without spilling their own blood.

 

A warning to our Ukrainian friends: the Americans are not to be trusted. Their foreign policy follows the dollar, not a quest for peace and (your) security—unless guaranteed by bayonets, loans, “open trade,” and nuclear weapons. They prefer their wars to be no more than nine innings and will do nearly anything to avoid going to extra innings. An important caveat to the general “avoidance of the extra innings rule” comes into play if the Americans keep a positive balance sheet on the NYSE and, at the same time, keep Uncle Sam’s body count relatively low, as occurred in Afghanistan. Until those factors change, those of us desperately wanting a peaceful conclusion to the war must look to another broker to lead the initiative than the United States. And certainly not rely on the “American people” to rise up for their troops to withdraw and arms to stop flowing. That would take a massive reform of our educational system to allow a free mind to understand both President Dwight Eisenhower and writer George Orwell. 

“Talking to her, he realized how easy it was to present an appearance of orthodoxy while having no grasp whatever of what orthodoxy meant. In a way, the worldview of the Party imposed itself most successfully on people incapable of understanding it. They could be made to accept the most flagrant violations of reality, because they never fully grasped the enormity of what was demanded of them, and were not sufficiently interested in public events to notice what was happening. By lack of understanding they remained sane. They simply swallowed everything, and what they swallowed did them no harm, because it left no residue behind, just as a grain of corn will pass undigested through the body of a bird.” 

                 George Orwell, 1984

 

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13 comments:

Rick Millward said...

The Vietnam comparison is specious.

Without belaboring the facts I'd simply point out that in this situation a nuclear bully is attempting to dominate Europe and ultimately the Free World. Hardly apples to apples.

I'm not a big fan of US foreign policy, but to assert that we wage war solely for profit oversimplifies and is unfair to earnest policy makers whom we must trust are doing the best they can. It doesn't take a genius to see that Russia was likely to become a failed state with nuclear weapons and it seems to me that the administration is executing a plan, which so far is working...failure is not an option.

Ukraine has, as a nation, decided that they will defend their democracy or perish. Considering ours is hanging by a thread maybe we should see this as instructive.

Michael Trigoboff said...

Ike warned about the military industrial complex; he also used it brilliantly as he led us to victory over Germany in World War II. The quality of leadership matters enormously.

In Vietnam, we were led by the egotistical and incompetent LBJ. In Iraq, we were led by the incompetent and overly trusting of his subordinates George W. Bush. Our withdrawal from Afghanistan was led by yet another president who measures up poorly compared to Ike.

Democracy doesn’t always select for competence; that’s one of its major flaws. It may be the best system, but it definitely isn’t perfect. There’s an element of luck involved, and we haven’t been that lucky over the past decades.

Mike Steely said...

I doubt if any of us really have the big picture here, but considering the fiascos our policy makers have gotten us into, it would be a mistake to assume that what they’re doing is necessarily for the best. The military/industrial complex and the politicians they own have found it easy to convince most Americans that our military misadventures are patriotic exercises in freedom and democracy. Hooah!

Maybe the war in Ukraine is an exception, but to understand what’s behind our involvement in just about anything, follow the money.

Anonymous said...

“The Democratic Party is a party of war,” People’s Party presidential candidate Cornel West said in a social media post Monday, expressing his view on U.S. involvement in the Ukraine war.

“Let us not be deceived: NATO is an expanding instrument of U.S. global power that provoked Russia into a criminal invasion and occupation of Ukraine,” West, who formally jumped into the presidential race in June, said in a lengthy social media post.

Dave said...

Bullies need to be stopped when they go to far. If not stopped they just keep going pushing the limit. I knew a lot of bullies who needed jail before they would stop. My view is Russia fits that profile. Has Russia experienced enough of a consequence that they will limit their bullying? My sense is yes, but now how do we end this thing after so much wrongdoing? Not an easy answer.

Michael Trigoboff said...

It’s almost always a mistake to insist that there is one simple explanation for what’s happening. Following the money is just one lens to view the world through.

The world is quite complicated, often beyond the ability of any single person to completely understand. Insisting that the world operates in a way that’s simple enough for your mind to comprehend is a good way to miss a large part of the true nature of things.

Mc said...

So, according to Cornell West, Ukraine is getting what it deserves.

What a dangerous nincompoop.

Michael Trigoboff said...

If Cornel West “provoked” me into smacking him upside the head because he was being such a dope about Russia ‘s aggression against Ukraine, would he then bear the responsibility for my assault on him?

Asking for a friend… 😀

Anonymous said...

….Says the person who regularly and confidently makes an unqualified assertions about the “true nature of things”. Sorry Michael I couldn’t resist ;) actually I agree with you. Things are much more complex and multifaceted than we can ever understand in the moment, and even afterward.

Michael Trigoboff said...

Anonymous,

As the Grateful Dead song Truckin’ goes:

Sometimes the light’s all shining on me…
Other times I can barely see…
Lately it occurs to me…
What a long, strange trip it’s been…

Mike said...

The conflict is too complex for us to understand, but let's pretend we do and take part in it anyway. What would Mister Natural say?

Peter C said...

The war will end when Putin says it does. His ego won't let him quit, so he has to get something out of it. If Ukraine agrees not to join NATO, maybe Russia will pull out. Both sides get something and save face. If that doesn't work, then the war will continue for years.

I don't mind us sending Ukraine weapons. Just don't send them American troops.

Mc said...

American troops will be sent if Republicans have their way and think it will be good for corporations.

Remember that most US wars were started because of corporate interests.