Wednesday, February 26, 2020

CBS Lost the Debate


Democrats lost, too.


There was a dual message, and both were bad: CBS is incompetent. Democrats are in disarray.


Where are Edward R. Murrow and Walter Cronkite when we need them? 



This is the time in the process when things are jelling. A new leader emerges from chaos, and voters, activists, and elected Democrats begin adjusting to the new political alignment. Arguably, that is where we are now. Bernie Sanders has a pathway to the nomination. The opposition to Sanders is splintered and the 15% threshold to get any delegates means that some of those votes for Buttigieg, Steyer, Biden, and Klobuchar will be assigned to Sanders. Sanders may have this wrapped up by evening on Super Tuesday.

This is a fork in the road for Democrats. Sanders isn't just a new leader. He is a new alignment of message, voters, and campaign funding. He does not represent a continuation and evolution of the current Democratic Party. He is a rejection of it. 

The reality of that break from the old is muddled by the fact that Sanders' policy goals are largely similar to those of the Clinton-Obama-Pelosi party, and Sanders preserves the parties' positions in the great culture war. The Democratic Party remains the more urban, more secular, more feminist party, and the one more responsive to the frustrations of people of color. Sanders differs from the old party in his message on the causes and solutions for income inequality, which means he attracts a different base constituency, and relies on a different donor base. That changes everything.

In Sanders' view, the old Democratic Party worked with corporate America and accepted its values and policies along with its campaign money, and that was a betrayal of working people. Democrats became simply a kinder, gentler, hypocritical version of the GOP on the key issues of jobs, trade, income distribution, and war. Both parties, he argues, are captured by powerful corporate interests, operating through their influence on campaign funding. Sanders rejects that. He is openly hostile to corporations and billionaires. The very rich are not allies; they are enemies.

Tuesday night's debate had the potential to be the watershed showdown between the new and old. Sanders would get hit from all sides and he would defend his positions. It could have been the trial by fire of Sanders's vision.

The opportunity was lost.

CBS validated everything snarky and critical that people have said about corporate media. They announced time limits on talk but made little attempt to enforce them, so candidates quickly learned to ignore them. The moderators asked questions designed to pick at political vulnerabilities rather than policy, and nobody had a chance to explain anything in any detail. If their goal was to create a chaotic food fight, they succeeded. At one point Sanders and Buttigieg simultaneously spoke for an entire minute, audio live on both microphones, appearing on split screen.

It turned into a mix of professional wrestling and Jerry Springer, dealing with minor points and resentments. Did people know Bloomberg had donated to Lindsay Graham, what did Sanders mean when he praised Cuban education, how did that differ from what Obama said, was Putin helping Sanders and why, who gets credit for what legislation, whether a D- score from the NRA is low enough.

It was all pretty silly.

The classic case of missed opportunity was when Elizabeth Warren, who potentially could represent a bridge across the Democratic chasm, used her time to attack Bloomberg, then persisted with it, questioning Bloomberg's jokes found inappropriate by three female employees, and his apology. He said he agreed, that he released the women from the non-disclosures, and that he ended at his firm the non-disclosure policies common on Wall Street. "Yes" was not good enough for Warren. Having heard agreement, instead of moving on to take credit for progress, incredibly, she turned back to more attacks on the same subject. She transported herself from a presidential candidate into the archetype never-satisfied scold, which is what people say when pressed to explain what they mean by "there is something about her I don't like." There it is. That is what they don't like.

The debate was a lost opportunity for Sanders and for Democrats. It failed to test whether Sanders could defend--and sell-- the new vision for the Democratic Party. He is proposing that Democrats make war against current allies of the party--"good" businesses, wealthy people, people tired of all the political upset, and the suburban voters that voted in the new House majority--without demonstrating he can sell a robust message that will unify Democrats and will replace those voters with the frustrated working class. He has convinced Democrats he can shun the moderates; can he convince them he can pull together a winning coalition? He didn't get a chance last night.

The debate also failed to identify a single, plausible alternative candidate to Sanders. All of them are sort of plausible and sort of flawed.

Bloomberg was positioned at the end and looked like he did last debate: imperious, cold, technocratic, competent, and prepared to step into the middle, brush aside all this participatory democracy time wasting, and win things the old fashioned way, with the mother's milk of politics, money.  That remains plan B. What we don't know yet if Plan A--Sanders--can sell his message to the sixty or seventy percent of Democrats who like someone else better than him.

And who are tired of all the drama.




6 comments:

Rick Millward said...

These shows aren't really debates.

de·bate
/dəˈbāt/
noun
a formal discussion on a particular topic in a public meeting or legislative assembly, in which opposing arguments are put forward.

I'm more reminded of a "Desperate Housewives" reunion show, emphasis on desperate.

I'm even more convinced that Sen. Sanders frontrunner status is a combination of his message and the contrast it presents to the Regressives, which also exposes a fundamental concern as to whether any of the other candidates can win. The question is whether the Democrats will unite behind him should he prevail next week. It would be self destructive if they don't, because last night's pathetic free-for-all is a pillow fight compared to what the Regressives will dish out. Right wing radio is already calling him a communist.

I think Sen. Warren was speaking for millions of women with her persistence on holding a very dodgy Bloomberg accountable. It's not a "minor" thing. #metoo

Sen. Sander's movement has eclipsed the candidate who actually would be the best positioned to unite the Democrats moving forward. Unlike Sanders, Sen. Warren has the flexibility to compromise and moderate her positions. If Bernie waffles at all he will be seen as a traitor; there's no way he can moderate if nominated and polling shows him losing which is a real possibility, especially if there is a third party spoiler.

Yikes...

Anonymous said...

Yes, there were many problems with the debate. Please lay out the kind of debate you want to see, Mr. Sage. What should the host do to manage the debaters? What kinds of questions should be asked? What kind of time limits? How can the debate hosts and the party best promote the kind of civic engagement Americans and Democrats need to make wise decisions? Please go beyond critique; please venture into a vision of the kind of debate---and the kind of results---we need. Consider Thomas Friedman's column in the New York Times, on forming a "team of rivals" to defeat Trump.

Andy Seles said...

Peter said, "That remains plan B. What we don't know yet if Plan A--Sanders--can sell his message to the sixty or seventy percent of Democrats who like someone else better than him."
Rick said, "If Bernie waffles at all he will be seen as a traitor; there's no way he can moderate if nominated and polling shows him losing which is a real possibility." I'd like to know where you both are getting your poll stats/numbers...you must have different sources than I do.
I agree with the rest of the critique; I've long said that corporate media caters to a dumbed-down electorate that prefers World Wrestling Entertainment and reality tv to anything approaching information. Hmmm...wonder if that has anything to do with the sixty or seventy percent quoted...

Andy Seles

Up Close: Road to the White House said...

Dear anonymous,

Why not sign your post?

I would like one person talking at a time. That would be a good start. I would like mics turned off t seconds after time is up. That would be number two. I would like the host to ask Sanders a substantive question, eg “ describe your health care plan and what it will cost.?” Then ask other candidates what is wrong with it and what they propose. Then let Sanders respond to that.

Something like that.

Anonymous comments have less credibility than ones signed by real people with their own names.

Peter Sage

Thad Guyer said...

"Useful Idiots and the Sanders Campaign Live at the Debate"

Maybe you'd like to watch it again: "Bloomberg to Sanders: Russia Is Trying To Get You Nominated So You Lose To Trump" (https://shorturl.at/mD135). CBS of course wouldn't touch the fact that the FBI informed the Sanders campaign weeks ago that Russia was promoting his candidacy. When Sanders was asked 5 days ago why he kept this a secret, the candidate had little to say. But Bloomberg and the New York Times aren't letting it go, asking why would Russia be trying to help both Trump and Sanders? The NYT podcast The Daily spends 20 minutes today telling us why. Listen, "Why Russia Is Rooting for Both Trump and Sanders" (shorturl.at/szGS7). The answer, the NYT says, is found in the cold war concept of "useful idiots", i.e. Russian influenced voters "propagandizing for a cause without fully comprehending the cause's goals." Bloomberg of course is right that Russia (like most of the Democratic punditry) sees Sanders as a pathetically inept nominee almost guaranteed to keep Trump in the White House.

But the podcast also argues that because Trump and Sanders each have a thick slice of cult-like followers within their camps who are given to extreme vitriol and violent talk, the best way to make Americans humiliate themselves in the eyes of the world is to have these two camps savage each other. CBS was the perfect useful idiot wanting to have a vicious reality show garner ratings but in fact doing palpable damage to our body politic. How do we thwart Russian interference? The answer is obvious: do whatever it takes to legally prevent Sanders from being our nominee.

Jan Carpenter said...

I apologize hiding under an "anonymous" label. My name is Janis E. Carpenter. I live in Portland, Oregon.