Wednesday, November 14, 2018

Direct Democracy. Facebook, Twitter, and unmoderated comments.

Social media groups reveal direct unfiltered opinion. 


We can learn from it. 


Trigger warning: This post mentions Biden, Hillary, and Bernie

From a leftist site: Hard bargain.

In some arenas of life, crowds are presumed to be smarter than the individuals in it. 

Also, in economic theory, investment markets are presumed to be efficient. The "crowd" consisting of all investors creates the accurate price, as the theory goes. The crowd knows best.

In politics, it is different. 

The writers of the Constitution were afraid of the tyrannical impulses of democracy, so they created a Constitution that is deeply un-democratic. We elect representatives who are presumably wiser and cooler heads than the public that elected them, and they make the decision. It is the "republican form of government."

I read the chatter on social media. Unfiltered chatter creates a primary source document. It reveals the split within the political left.

Can he overcome not being Bernie Sanders?
Social media chatter is opinion democracy in pure form, unleashed because individuals operate in isolation. People don't get cues from body language or tone of spoken voice, so writers are incautious. People denounce one another. People pile on. The angriest and loudest voices dominate. People who disagree stay quiet out of fear or prudence. Facebook pile-ons show the chaos of pure democracy and also its authoritarian tendency. Bullies gang up together and enforce conformity. But it also reveals who can lead a coalition of revolt against the main tide of consensus politics.

Certain names trigger outrage. Joe Biden and Hillary Clinton are two of them. They are lightning rods. To some on the political left, they epitomize "corporate Democrats," establishment Democrats irrevocably tagged as sell-outs who made peace with the business establishment of America. Worse, they worked against Bernie in 2016.

Facebook comment
If either of them were to get traction in the 2020 race, or especially the nomination, they would fracture the left.

So would Bernie Sanders. His endorsement of Hillary in 2016 was perceived by many Democrats as insincere and weak, and his immediate reversion back to the Independent Socialist brand after the 2016 election signals that he, in fact, rejects Democrats.

So do many of his supporters.

"Regular" Democrats who focus on not losing elections misunderstand those voters to their left. Democrats think those progressives are allies. Many are not. They dislike Democrats because progressives aren't Democrats, and they resent being confused for them. They doubly resent Nader and Stein being blamed for the losses to Bush in 2000 and Trump in 2016. They say Democrats lost on their own because they nominated unelectable people. Democrats did not earn their votes, they write, and they are not "owed" those votes to  anyone. They consider it presumptuous and offensive for Democrats to think they should compromise with some "lesser of two evils" argument.

It backfires badly when Democrats suggest "compromise." or "being reasonable."  It annoys progressives. They believe they are being reasonable.

Democrats should take no for an answer.

The fracture on the left may persist for another election. The solution is new blood, and nominating someone who was a non-combatant in the Nader-Gore-Bernie-Hillary battles. Someone young. 

But that may not happen. There will likely be a multitude of younger people hoping to catch fire in Iowa and New Hampshire, and they will divide the vote among themselves, thous elevating Biden and Sanders. We have seen this before. The anti-Trump vote was a sizable majority in 2016 but Trump had the plurality in a fractured race. 

Now it is the Democrats' turn. The pluralities may well go to the big names, Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders. This could work out badly.


4 comments:

Rick Millward said...

Hindsight shows us that Bernie style activism elected Trump.

Bernie confuses me because while I agree with the truth of his issues, I don't see the logic of a hardline socialist agenda other than perhaps the idea that the "revolution" will come sooner if they stick to a rigid ideology. So called "corporate Democrats" were also complicit when they tried to nullify the Sanders influence and it backfired. Lesson learned?

As urgent as Progressive issues are pressing it's unrealistic to think that this society will turn into Sweden overnight. Bernie should abandon his quixotic self serving quest, join the Democratic party and make the compromises that will unify them going forward.

Anonymous said...

Agree with the premise that Progressive Activists are not "Democrats." For this slate of likely nominees: Kill Me Now.

Andy Seles said...

So called "conservative" leaders have been moving the goal posts to the right for the last thirty-plus years...abetted by neoliberal (third wave) Democrats like Clinton and Obama. FDR is rolling in his grave.

There is a place in politics for those who are not eager to continually snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Too many Democrats pride themselves on their willingness to compromise before they even get to the table...single payer a perfect example.
Andy Seles

Ralphbwman said...

The B team, Bernie and Biden. Too old like Nancy and Chuck. Blowhard Biden stands for nothing. Bernie has one song and he has driven it into the ground but it caught fire among debt laden college kids, older adults who understood preexisting conditions and drug costs, and again tkids trying to build a future on minimum wage dead end jobs. But kids don’t cut it . He did not speak to union bosses. Biden thinks he can but what is his message?

The Demo problem is not a split between the progressives of small donations and the old guard who humbly take handouts from Wallstreet. No, neither have the message that pulls the LBJ / FDR Democrats back into the fold. Those Regan Democrats have gone to the Trump fold, never to return unless the Democrats can promise a return to the $50.00 per hour jobs, stay away from racial messages and talk jobs, jobs, jobs. That is the message. Free Education, taxing the non paying corporations and Billionaires, building highways and bridges, and solar panels on every roof. A vision of future growth without compromise.



Ralph
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