"If liberals won't enforce borders, fascists will."
They have in mind Medicare-for-all, or some major income redistribution or child care program, something that some leftist political party in northern Europe would advocate.
I respond that Clinton and Obama never had the votes. I try to turn the blame back onto my friends. "You are at fault, not Clinton and Obama. You didn't sell it. You never persuaded the public to want it." I then drop the big bomb of arguments: "When progressives push something unpopular, not only do you not get it, you elect a con-man autocrat like Trump. You got us Trump."
Democrats got out of touch with the American public. That doesn't mean that they were "wrong" in some abstract view of the best, wisest, most ethical policy. Indeed, I think that the values American Christians say they believe-- those Matthew 25 virtues of feeding the hungry, welcoming the refugee, healing the sick -- are worth working toward. Jesus was right. But if Jesus couldn't sell those ideas to the world -- and they have remained out of reach for 2,000 years so far -- then it isn't surprising that social-welfare-oriented Democrats haven't succeeded either. People are selfish.
Democrats neglected the problem of mass illegal immigration. They also came across as dismissive of some traditional gender roles. They left political space for a Republican to take up those issues. The political figure who did it first and best is Donald Trump. He made it GOP orthodoxy.
Opinion journalist and political commentator Matthew Yglesias described this in his Substack blog:
Were a government to come into office that cut immigration, increased prison sentences, and said vaguely encouraging things about tradwives, it wouldn’t be the end of the world. In politics, sometimes you win the argument and sometimes you lose. But if deeply illiberal people come to power and trash the basic institutions of Western democracies, that’s not just something we come back from.
My sense that Trump is doing irreparable damage to the United States does not really stem from his views on crime and immigration. It’s based on his total disrespect for constitutional government, the rule of law, ethics, science, economics, and basic human decency. The problem is that while these right-wing views about immigration, crime, and gender roles are not per se illiberal, you can see why they disproportionately appeal to people with illiberal views and authoritarian mindsets. If all the elites who favor democratic institutions also refuse to supply the policy options on immigration and crime that the voters want, then voters will ultimately get those policies from more sinister types.
[Note: "Tradwife" is slang for a "traditional," stay-at-home, baby-making woman, pre-women's liberation.]
Democratic activists should not insist on promoting unpopular positions. Respect democracy. Legitimacy comes from the consent of the governed. If progressive, tip-of-the-spear policy activists have a policy they are certain is fair and just, then they must do first things first. Don't find an electable Democrat and "hold his feet to the fire" defending something people don't like on bit, e.g. Lia Thomas winning swim meets or enabling mass scofflaw immigration. Read the room. If a politician needs to be tortured and extorted into supporting something, then progressives have failed in their duty, which is to have brought the public along to their view.
Their opponents will cherry pick the hardest to defend examples of unpopular policy choices and beat Democrats over the head with them with multimillion dollar campaigns. Of course. That is what opponents do.
That isn't some imagined outcome. It is exactly what Trump did, and the public made him our president.
If you hold the public's feet to the fire, they rebel.
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Let's not toss the word "illiberal" around so lightly, it refers to something a lot worse than "liberal". Yes' "People are selfish." but you leave out that they are also utterly capable of self destructive behavior against their own best interests.
Blithely blaming Democrats for fascism when it's so much more complicated, involving the corruption of the Republican party over the last 30 years by lying opportunists who pandered to the fears and prejudices, of the ignorant, aided by greedy corporations and have you heard of the internet? It should be so simple.
If Democrats/Progressives are guilty of anything it's overestimating the intelligence of the electorate. For example, we fought for decades for the rights of African Americans and once won many of them turned around and now support their oppressors. How is that not simply foolish and self defeating?
Corollary of the David Frum quote? Leftists term it fascistic to enforce borders. For America and Europe, that is.
Jesus would have welcomed refugees. Lawbreakers posing as refugees, on the other hand? Maybe another matter.
Should the likes of Lia Thomas and their penises occupy female spaces in parks, schools, spas and YMCAs?
“Cherry-picking” versus simply picking, is like “selling-out” versus being in a position to govern in the first place.
Most Americans vote against more than they vote for. Sadly, that may leave the bad in competition with the worst.
MEANWHILE, MIKE JOHNSON TOLD REPORTERS THAT TRUMP WAS AND FBI INFORMANT AGAINST EPSTEIN. IF SO WOULDN'T TRUMP, WHO CAN'T SHUT UP FOR A MINUTE, BE SHOUTING IT FROM THE RAFTERS? I'D SAY "PROVE IT" BY RELEASING ALL THE INVESTIGATIVE DOCUMENTS. WE ARE WAITING!!
"Democratic activists" boil down to the dictates of a handful of very rich people like Soros and Pritzker and Gill who fund the foundations who fund the astroturf 'activist' groups that Democratic lawmakers listen to.
The National Women's Law Center, NOW, the WomensMarch, the National Center For Lesbian Rights have all fought to make all women's spaces and sports into mixed-sex. Not a single one has supported the girls seeking fair single-sex sports and privacy and dignity in single-sex locker rooms. All these groups work against the girls and young women seeking fair treatment, because their funders order them to do so. This is why the girls suing the state of Connecticut for fair sports are represented by the ADF, an anti-abortion Christian legal group. None of the groups with 'women' in their name would help the young women.
Democrats are being led astray by listening to groups echoing the wishes of Jennifer Pritzker, world's first billionaire trans-identified male. Just another version of rich men getting what they want from legislatures and political parties. Even when they admit they are sexual perverts twisted by watching sissy porn, like the Wachowski brothers, they get what they want.
Three young women from Santa Rosa Junior College in California just filed a Title IX lawsuit against the school for refusing to provide female students with a female volleyball team. Also in California, 2 girls have just announced they will no longer play with their high school volleyball team that includes a male player.
When Democratic activists scream at these young women and call them fascists and bigots and the new Jim Crow segregationists for wanting single-sex sports and locker rooms, I'm sickened. (and this crazy behavior may give the governors office to the GOP in Virginia again, see the news from Arlington)
Democrats are simply insane for deciding young women athletes are now the enemy class. And doing so at the behest of middle aged male cross dressing sexual fetishists show the depth of their stupidity. What were they thinking???
An NBC report has revealed that "the Justice Department on Friday asked a federal judge overseeing the case of deceased sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein to deny a request from NBC News to unseal the names of two associates who received large payments from him in 2018." Gee, I wonder why.
"...If Democrats/Progressives are guilty of anything it's overestimating the intelligence of the electorate..."
Wow... I smell a facist elitist in the room.
It's truly enlightening that you just put that in writing.
"involving the corruption of the Republican party..."(??)
Democrats are pure Angels... never recieved a corporate donation, or money from offshore Foreign interests...
...and again Ricky, be careful what you wish for with any disclosure of Epstein, and, you should ask yourself, ...how many more "Islands" are out there going on about as "business as usual"?
If there is such incriminating evidence against Trump, why didn't the Biden administraion reveal it...?
Why wasn't it revealed during Obama's reign during the 2016 election?
“Overestimating the intelligence of the electorate.“
Right up there with Hillary’s “basket of deplorables” and Obama’s “bitter clingers.” All examples of the clueless left-wing cultural elite arrogance that put Trump into the White House.
Happy now?
2025’s version of Russia, Russia, Russia.
If that’s all the Democrats have got, they are pathetic.
The problem is not with the Democrats’ beliefs, it’s that they haven’t yet figured out how to elect another people.
Hint, to paraphrase Donald Rumsfeld:
You go to elections with the people you have.
What put Trump in the White House are the clueless, white-wing knuckle-draggers who thought it was funny when Trump bragged about grabbing pussy or being able to get away with shooting someone in the middle of Fifth Avenue.
Happy now?
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