Tuesday, August 15, 2023

"I don't know."

Sometimes "I don't know" is a frank admission of reality.

Sometimes "I don't know" is a dishonest and dangerous weapon.

The scientific method requires a frank acknowledgement of doubt. A person states a hypothetical and then makes close observations to try to falsify that hypothetical. It is impossible to know what is always true. What we can know is what is false. That leads us to a better approximation of truth.

Trump weaponized doubt. Trump asserted that Obama wasn't born in the USA. He dismissed evidence and kept saying there were unanswered questions. The result is that, today, about half of Republican voters question whether Obama was born in Hawaii, notwithstanding his birth records, contemporaneous newspaper records, and eyewitnesses.

Trump and some of his GOP allies say they doubt the 2020 election. There may have been forged ballots, maybe counterfeits with bamboo fragments, maybe dead people voting. They dismiss evidence that falsifies those assertions. They say they have new questions, new doubts. They assert accusations as hypotheses, and say they could have happened. The question/accusation is what sticks in minds, if the accusation/question fits a welcome partisan narrative. 

Doubt -- and claims of doubt --  can justify asserting whatever serves one's interests. One can disguise slanders by framing them in the form of questions. And yet questioning conventional thinking is how we get progress. Sometimes the doubter is right.


Galileo. "And yet it moves."

We now understand Galileo to have been a courageous scientist and observer, not a man suffering from Oppositional Defiant Disorder, DSM-5.

Career software engineer and college professor Michael Trigoboff, now retired, has watched the mainstream media and the liberal/progressive establishment in policy and academia assert some supposedly true things about the equality of races, about crime, and about the source of Covid. Trigoboff's career operated in an arena of detail and rigor. Computer code is right or it is buggy. "Pretty good" is wrong. He accuses the liberal elite establishment of confusing group-think with accuracy. Doubt may look like contrariness for the sake of picking fights, but considered rigorously, truth is an approximation. What we can know for sure is we never know for sure.



Guest Post by Michael Trigoboff.

Was the Covid pandemic caused by a virus that jumped from animals to humans, or was it caused by the leak of a modified virus from the Wuhan Institute of Virology? The correct answer, supported by all of the available scientific knowledge is, “We don’t know.” There is evidence in both directions; none of it is conclusive. Besides, the Chinese Communist government, not especially known for openness, has concealed important information.

 

There seems to be a widespread aversion to admitting that we don’t know. This is intellectually dishonest, and it interferes with using the scientific method to find the answer. If you can’t think of hypotheses and test them without preconceptions, the scientific method is unlikely to work.

 

Early in the pandemic, people were denounced as “racist” for even bringing up the idea of a leak from the Wuhan lab. A significant part of the medical establishment and mainstream media tried to make it impossible/unacceptable to think that the pandemic’s origin had been anything other than viral jump into humans from an animal.

 

This was in part a reaction to Donald Trump and some things he said. But while reacting to Donald Trump may have felt necessary to some, doing it to the point of interference with our ability to scientifically understand the pandemic’s origin was a destructive overreaction.

 

The scientific method is great when it’s done competently and correctly, but it’s vulnerable to a variety of outside pressures. Will you get the grant you applied for? Will your peers review your results with approval? Will a scientific journal print your article? The potential for hidden agendas is always present. Careerism and political prejudice may significantly influence your chances of success.

 

When building a scientific career, the incentive to “torture the data until it confesses” can overwhelm integrity. Recent studies have shown that attempts to replicate literally half of the peer-reviewed journal articles in the field of psychology have failed. Even scientists are susceptible to motivated reasoning and confirmation bias.


There is no smoking gun, but there is suggestive evidence that Dr. Anthony Fauci collaborated with Peter Daszak of the EcoHealth Alliance to fund “gain of function” research at the Wuhan lab. This kind of research aims to make an infectious agent more infectious so that scientists can see what the possibilities are and hopefully prepare for the actual emergence of the increased level of danger. But it’s very controversial; many scientists say it should not be done. Could this sort of research have produced the Covid virus? We don’t know.

 

I worked for 30 years as a software developer. Much of software development involves debugging your code, which means figuring out why your code doesn’t work the way you want it to. Debugging involves coming up with hypotheses about what’s wrong and then testing those hypotheses to see if they explain the behavior of the software. It’s the scientific method in miniature, right there inside your computer. As a developer, you become very accustomed to being wrong, and to realizing that you don’t know what’s going on. If you do not become comfortable with not knowing, you will never develop the calm focus you need to figure out what’s wrong with your code and how to fix it.

 

We don’t currently know for sure the exact origin of the Covid pandemic. “Don’t know” means that all possibilities, including a leak from the Wuhan laboratory, are still on the table.

 

Some people are so uncomfortable with “don’t know” that they refuse to believe it. During the 2016 election, I had friends who knew that Trump could not win. I maintained that I didn’t know, and they would say things to me like, “Come on, of course you know Trump can’t win.” But I stuck to my guns and maintained against all resistance that I actually didn’t know. And it turns out I was right; I didn’t know.




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18 comments:

Mike Steely said...

As Michael says, we don’t yet know beyond the shadow of a doubt. However, what we do have is a preponderance of evidence. For anyone interested in reading the conclusions of people who know what they’re talking about:
https://www.science.org/content/article/evidence-suggests-pandemic-came-nature-not-lab-panel-says

Anonymous said...

Etymology: truthers and trutherism began with the belief that the US government was responsible for or complicit in the 9/11 attacks. Certainty that the authorized narrative is wrong has grown since then.

Anonymous said...

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Mc said...

Peter, maybe MT knows about code.
But his posts show that he's in over his head on all other matters and that he can't separate his bias from fact.
He criticizes "the establishment" because facts change, yet here he's advocating for "I don't know."

Hey, the Earth might be flat. Right?

John F said...

Whether me know for sure where the virus came from, we operated in 2020 as we did with the emergence of Bird flu and camel fever. Both emerging epidemics were contained off our shores. Both were coronaviruses found in the wild who's origin was unknown. Bird flu infected Chinese people and proved to be highly contagious and lethal to humans. To me it made sense that the coronaviruses would be studied. I'm sure China was doing research on the virus and I suspect the virus was also under study at Fort Mead. We know for sure that the particular virus Covid-19 was identified in Chinese labs because their government released the complete genome to the world. Releasing the genome is not the same as releasing the virus, rather it is a blueprint of the virus. Having giving the covid-19 genome to the world allowed researchers around the world to begin creating a vaccine, where Donald Trump stepped in with Operation Warp Speed to accelerate that endeavor. The result was an experimental vaccine developed within an unheard of timeframe. Where the virus came from was and still is a distraction from the fact that this virus like all viruses mutate to reach as many hosts as possible, in this case humans. Where distractors, citing origin hypothesis as fact, are simply gaslighting.

We are wasting valuable time debating the origin issue instead of focusing on identifying, isolating, and quarantining emerging bio epidemic threats. In fact gaslighting the origin hypotheses is feeding a xenophobic chord within elements of fearful individuals to perpetrate violence and hatred against people of Asian decent.

The equivalent in the computer world would be to attack all computer coders because some code computer viruses; and, in the computer world we attempt to identify the coder that released said computer virus. What actually happens is we develop methods to identify, isolate and quarantine said computer virus. Here computer security specialists identify the string of code (the equivalent of the genome) and send it out of be studied in hopes of "vaccinating"computer systems exposed around the world. Rarely do we know for certain who did it. We just have to deal with it.

Doe the unknown said...

All other things aside, did Dr. Fauci participate in the funding of gain-of-function research in China? This shouldn't be hard to determine, but it seems we cannot determine the answer. Or the answer to this: If he did help fund the research, then why did he do that? My understanding is that many Americans claim Dr. Fauci and others in the Obama administration sought to undermine American security by funding this research; they supposedly wanted to strengthen China at our expense, and that's why Dr. Fauci (a traitor, so the argument goes) helped fund the gain-of-function research. On the other hand, Michael Trigoboff says that there is "suggestive evidence" that Dr. Fauci helped fund research that would help us prepare for "the increased level of danger"; in other words, the suggestion is that Dr. Fauci shares blame for the pandemic, but he's not a traitor. Dr. Fauci's role or lack of a role in this research is a historical or political issue; determining whether or not he was involved is not a scientific issue. So what's the answer? I realize that the many of the people who blame Dr. Fauci say that Dr. Fauci is a liar, so we can't take Dr. Fauci at his word (so the argument goes). Let's get to the bottom of this once and for all. I venture to suggest that Dr. Fauci is not like Alger Hiss. I think Dr. Fauci is just one of the many poster children for "No good deed goes unpunished." Am I crazy to think so? To reiterate, I'm not proposing a scientific hypothesis here. Lets stop confusing politics with science. (Except science could determine the answer to the question of whether or not I'm crazy.)

Michael Trigoboff said...

John F,

I do not disagree with you that developing the vaccine was more important than knowing the exact origin of the Covid virus.

But I object to the false assertions of certainty about the origin when we actually did not know, and the false and demagogic accusations of “racism“ directed at anyone who correctly pointed out that uncertainty.

John F said...

Object away, whether it rises to racism, is again gaslighting as it is not what I wrote. The facts are clear that labeling China as the “deliberate or accidental” originator of Covid-19 set off haters and violence toward Asian people, which is what I wrote in my comment. Police reports show an increase in attacks on Asian people after the hypothesis of a China lab leak circulated. I saw the same reaction to gay men in the 80s when HIV was linked to gay sex. Gay bashing was then on the increase.

But again, it's a distraction from the real need to have a public health posture that intercepts biothreats before they become endemic.

Mike Steely said...

John F –
COVID-19's origin may not matter in terms of its treatment, but it does make a difference to epidemiologists. It’s also very important to conspiracy theorists that crackpots believe Dr. Fauci and the Wuhan lab unleashed the pandemic on the world, all evidence to the contrary notwithstanding. Who knows why, except they do love their disinformation.

Michael Trigoboff said...

John F,

We cannot allow the irrational reactions of “haters” to limit our discussions or our understanding of what’s going on. Those who commit violence should be dealt with by police action, not by all of us self-censoring in an attempt to avoid triggering their crazy and depraved behavior.

Mike said...

So, what we’ve learned here in 647 words is that we still don’t know what we already knew we don’t know for sure, but here’s a hint from Yale Medicine: “Severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2, or SARS-CoV-2, was never seen before it surfaced in December 2019—when it was believed to have passed somehow from an animal to a human at a large seafood and live animal market in Wuhan. (Its origins are still under investigation.)”

Michael Trigoboff said...

Mike seems to think that sarcasm and a bad attitude produce scientific certainty.

I could quote any number of articles back at him, but I will leave it at this:

The evidence is not conclusive, so I don’t know. Mike is welcome to his false sense of certainty.

Mike Steely said...

Michael seems to have a problem with reading comprehension. All I did was confirm that yes, we don't know for certain, but in many fewer words and without all the nonsense about racism and Dr. Fauci.

Michael Trigoboff said...

Mike’s words say one thing; his sarcasm says something else. When challenged, he retreats to the literal meaning of the words, and pretends the sarcasm wasn’t there.

Mike said...

There you go again - projecting.

Michael Trigoboff said...

Nice quote from Ronald Reagan. 😀

M2inFLA said...

MT,

Thank you for writing this. "We don't know" is a perfectly good summary.

Like you, I too have been an engineer for much of my career. I've also grown into the roles of engineering manager, and eventually a marketing executive.

The most important thing I got from high school and college was "learning how to learn. That was the most important skill that launched my successful career in high tech.

I wish more people would spend more time learning before speaking, commenting, or writing. And learn to accept we can't know everything; it's sometimes better to say "I don't know".

Peter has asked me to write something, and someday I will in addition to commenting here.

Right now, still collecting my thoughts to develop something worth writing about.

In the meantime, I'm spending my time learning more, and more, to make the sunset years be the best for my wife and me.

PS I write this, this evening, relaxing at happy hour in Holyhead Wales. Next stop, Dublin.

Michael Trigoboff said...

M2inFLA,

Thanks.

There’s a fundamental difference between us engineers and liberal arts majors. We constantly come up against hard, objective truth. The code crashes; the device doesn’t work; the aircraft departs from controlled flight; the refinery blows up. In technical fields, you had better be very accurate in assessing what you know vs what you don’t know.

It’s easier to get away with thinking you know something that you actually don’t know in the liberal arts. Enforcement is much more lenient in that realm.