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Saturday, October 31, 2020
Woke
Guest Post rant,
Friday, October 30, 2020
Sarah Spansail for Medford City Council
Vote Sarah Spansail.
A Medford Ward One voter needs to be strategic.
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This is a three person race. The third candidate, Jeff Thomas, recently switched his Party to Republican, I suspect so he would have better credibility with politically conservative people in Ward One. Otherwise people looking for a conservative mindset might make the disastrous choice of voting for Ankerberg, who combines his Republicanism with a toxic personality. Good for Jeff for switching parties.
However, we saw with the Republican primary contest between the very strong candidate, Jessica Gomez, and the angry vulgar Ankerberg, that Republican voters were reluctant to support a newly-hatched Republican. She barely beat him.The same thing might happen here. Jeff Thomas will get some votes, but Ankerberg might actually get a plurality. Ankerberg is famous, after all, even if he is famous for his misbehaviors and obsessions, not for anything good.
"Listen, don't believe these polls."
"The Trump vote is always being undercounted. Pollsters- when they actually call the Trump voter, the Trump voter is very suspicious of the 'Deep State' calling them and asking them who they're voting for."
It isn't a contradiction to say that there are in-your-face Trump voters and shy Trump voters. They are alike. Both groups feel their support for Trump is controversial. One group is defiant about it, the other doesn't want to make trouble.
Trump is the naughty candidate. Trump is the candidate who is honest, not polite. Trump says cruel things. He says aloud that police should bump the heads of criminals. That isn't "right" but it is an attitude a lot of people feel. He doesn't like or trust Muslims. People know that in America we aren't supposed to discriminate against people based on religion, but Trump does it. Trump isn't embarrassed about his little prejudices. He lies boldly about being the least racist person and dares people to prove him wrong. He is being defiant, not descriptive. The Archie Bunker character is not just noteworthy and remembered for his prejudices; he is also remembered for voicing them boldly.
Hillary said aloud 4 years ago that Americans were a little bit racist and a little misogynistic and she was right. A lot of people have secret thoughts about women, men, Jews, Mormons, Blacks, homosexuals, Mexicans, Chinese, Muslims, seniors, immigrants generally, and more. We know prejudice is wrong. We are told to be conscious of them, and to stifle them because that is forbidden thinking. Americans are being constantly scolded by our internal and external judgements on ourselves. A lot of people resent the scolding.
This isn't just a White male problem. Everybody is something. Just because a person is subject of prejudice and resents the stereotype and prejudice one sometimes receives, doesn't mean such people don't simultaneously have the negative prejudices about a multitude of identities, including their own. Biden will not win anywhere near all the votes of people he "should" win, i.e. the victims of prejudice.
Support for Biden-Harris is safe and polite. Black voters did not turn out for Hillary and Biden has not given them a good reason to turn out for him, either. If voters want a middle finger candidate, it is Trump.
Will Trump win? Maybe not. He has given seniors a reason to be unhappy with him and they vote, but the election is far, far closer than Democrats think. It is close enough that the story this time next week will be about supposedly fraudulent mailed ballots, about Democrats trying to steal the election, about the righteous indignation of Republicans who will believe Trump when he says he won once all the forgeries and disputable ballots are discarded.
Some people who don't usually vote will turn out this year. And those undecided voters aren't undecided.
Michael Moore is right.
Thursday, October 29, 2020
Trump: "a wretched human being."
“He panders to racists and prevents sensible immigration reform in a nation built on immigration labor and intellect. He tweets conspiracy theories. He’s cavalier about COVID-19 and had led poorly through the pandemic. He seeks to dismantle the Affordable Care Act without proposing a replacement. He denies climate change.”
Notwithstanding that, "Vote for Donald Trump."
Spokane, Washington EditorialVote for the jerk? Really? Yes, they really said that.
There are editorials on both sides of the upcoming election. The editorial in the Spokane, Washington Spokesman-Review tells us what this election is really about for a lot of people.
There is a second potential frame, the one Biden is promoting, bad character vs. good character. This is a fight for the "soul of the nation," Biden says. Trump shows ample evidence of bad character, and even his supporters see it. Trump isn't trying to be a choir boy in response. Instead he is trying to make the issue a wash to defang the issue. Biden is corrupt! Hunter! Hunter!
A third frame is the one Trump is using in his closing argument. He is the jobs candidate and the one who says America can power through the COVID epidemic by going about our lives, taking the hit to the old, weak, and soon-to-die-anyway, and by hurrying up the vaccine. Trump says we have already "turned the corner" while Biden, the cowardly mask-wearing weenie, hides out and has a defeatist policy of job-killing social distance tyranny and economic depression. Vote Trump for a strong economy.
The Spokane editorial reminds readers that there is a perfectly satisfactory way for Republican-oriented voters both to contemplate Trump's tweets, dishonesty, authoritarianism, dog whistle racism, irreligiousness, and overall "wretched" character, and still vote for him. It's because those character flaws aren't flaws.
The editorial posits that "the policies that Joe Biden and his progressive supporters would impose on the nation would be worse." Biden would be the "doddering doting uncle who would hand out gifts the nation can't afford in order to win people's love." We cannot vote for that, so "economic policy and principle should prevail."
The editorial brings us back to basics. For many, the election is actually about the potential for re-distribution of wealth. At every level of the economic spectrum, people fear their tax money will be given to the undeserving. The secure and wealthy don't want it given to the middle class in the form progressive taxes and expensive benefits like Medicare for All and affordable college. Working people--the non-college white men that are the centerpiece of Trump's base--don't want it given to people they perceive to work less hard than them, or to get jobs and promotions they better deserve. Women are getting men's jobs. Black people seem to get preferences, as are Latinos. Immigrants get hired to work under the table. Everyone sees someone they consider undeserving. Trump does not need to reference redistribution to Blacks. He can mention suburbs and Cory Booker invading it. People who want to get it, get it. People who want not to hear it, can ignore it.
Mitt Romney made the argument of "makers" and ""takers, the latter being the 47% who will sponge off hard working productive Americans. Circumspect Romney said this the polite way, the Republican way. Trump said it the George Wallace way. Romney got more votes than Trump in the Upper Midwest swing states, but he ran against Obama, who had saved the auto industry, and Trump ran against Hillary and her emails. Romney ran as a normal, regular Republican. Trump's message realigns the GOPs core constituency, exchanging Archie Bunker for the suburban housewife.
If income redistribution is the issue, then Trump being a cruel, selfish, dishonest, intemperate dog whistler about low IQ Blacks and looting taking place under cover of Black Lives Matter protests isn't all that bad. It takes someone like that to keep people from taking your money.
Wednesday, October 28, 2020
Midwestern Values: Sleepy Joe isn't Woke
"America needs Michigan"
Tuesday, October 27, 2020
Does Social Media Win Elections?
Maybe. There is a lot of coordinated activity by both campaigns.
It's one more thing for Democrats to worry about.
Example of ad by The Lincoln Project |
Political scientists want to measure and understand whether social media actually changes minds and votes. Sandford Borins is one. He just retired as a professor of political science and management at the University of Toronto, and he has appeared here as a Guest Post author, most frequently in some version of his classic framing of political messaging archetypes: Hero, Knave, and Fool.
Sandford Borins' writing can be accessed directly at his own website, www.sandfordborins.com
Guest Post by Sandford Borins
Just as students of public opinion use polling to predict elections, students of online politics use activity counts (viewcounts, likes, comments, retweets, etc.) to predict elections. The fundamental theorem of online politics is that more activity is better, and the candidate with more activity is likely to win the election.
A recent article in The New York Times by technology writer Kevin Roose notes that Trump’s campaign has experienced much more activity on Facebook, Instagram, and YouTube than Biden’s. Trump has had 207 million views of his videos on YouTube in the last 30 days compared to 29 million for Biden’s. In contrast, in the public opinion polls, Biden has maintained a steady 10-point lead. What does this inconsistency signify?
First, a bit of background. A decade ago, candidates posted all their broadcast ads on YouTube and didn’t make much use of other social media. YouTube viewcounts were thus a meaningful indicator of candidate popularity. I found that in the 2015 Canadian election the Liberals had a much higher total viewcount than either the Conservatives or NDP and that in the 2016 US presidential election the total viewcount for Clinton’s ads was slightly ahead of Trump’s until FBI Director James Comey’s announcement of a second investigation of Clinton’s emails in the last week of the campaign. During the last week, Trump’s ads posted on YouTube received four times as many views as Clinton’s (4 million to 1 million), reflecting the shift in voter preferences that would lead to Trump’s narrow victory.
Now, social media campaigns are much more elaborate. While official campaigns and PACs run ads on broadcast media and repeat them on YouTube, they and their surrogates are constantly sending out ads on social media to targeted voters. So YouTube viewcounts are less likely to be an accurate predictor of voter preferences. An academic studying online campaigning would need a major grant to follow all this activity. That’s no longer me. But I have been following the campaigns on YouTube and have some observations.
An exhaustive study would include the YouTube channels of both the official campaigns and major associated PACs. In Trump’s case, Future45, his major PAC in 2016, still maintains a channel but hasn’t been posting. The most effective PAC working on Biden’s behalf is The Lincoln Project, led by disaffected Republicans. (See Paige William’s profile in The New Yorker).
The Lincoln Project has 687,000 subscribers and has posted 240 videos on its YouTube channel. Almost all are attacks on Trump, his inner circle, or key Republican senators running for re-election. Because The Lincoln Project is doing the attacking, the official Biden campaign can set a more positive tone. In the last month, the Lincoln Project’s videos have had 38 million views, so they are obviously amplifying Biden’s message.In previous analyses of campaign ads, I’ve referred to three fables: hero, knave, and fool. To this point, attacks on Trump have emphasized his bigotry, racism, sexism, and authoritarianism, all subsumed under the category of knave. In many of its ads, the Lincoln Project has taken a different tack, portraying Trump as a fool. Don the Con argues that he has been ripped off by his own campaign chiefs, who have spent a billion dollars in funds with no evident results. Rats mocks him because he is losing the election and his henchmen and women are leaving the sinking ship and blaming him. The ads activating the “fool” fable are often placed on media Trump is known to watch and use unseen female narration to twist the knife.
The Lincoln Project’s ads are viewed extremely favorably by their audiences, with 99 percent of the votes being likes rather than dislikes.
Joe Biden’s official YouTube channel has 426,000 subscribers and has posted 700 videos. The tone of most is upbeat, focusing on Biden’s program, record, and empathetic personality. Many are narrated by citizens who support Biden. A considerable number of clips from the debates and his speeches have been posted. The recent ad that has received the most attention is ‘Go from There,” an ad that extols Biden as a unifier not a divider, narrated by the actor Sam Elliott. In a week it has received 1.5 million views. Biden’s videos generally receive more likes than dislikes, but nothing like the near unanimity of The Lincoln Project’s.
The Trump campaign’s YouTube channel has 1.5 million subscribers and carries 3400 videos. The number of videos is so large because it is continually posting short clips from Trump’s speeches. The name most often seen on the titles of Trump campaign videos is Joe Biden, as the dominant message is an attack on Biden. Using my trichotomy of knave, fool, and hero, few ads are heroic references to Trump, and the vast majority are split between Biden as fool (confused to the point of senility, dupe of the socialist left wing of the Democratic Party, particularly Kamala Harris) or as knave (enabler of Hunter’s alleged influence-peddling with foreign governments, supporter of higher taxes).
Some of the campaign’s videos are achieving viewcounts of over 5 million almost instantly. The most recent of these include “Do You Trust Joe Biden with your Money?”, “Did Something Happen to Joe Biden?”, and “Joe Biden: All Talk, No Action,” all of which were posted on October 25. The first activates the knave fable regarding taxes, the second the fool fable by zeroing on Biden’s stuttering or verbal gaffes, and the third is a contrast ad aimed at Blacks narrated by the former athlete Herschel Walker. Assuming they are real rather than fabricated, these viewcounts are impressive. These ads have a total of 50,000 to 100,000 likes and dislikes, in a ratio of approximately 2 to 1. So they are not being watched only by Trump supporters.
To return to the question with which I began, why is Trump dominating the social media campaign so strongly when Biden is leading so steadily in the public opinion polls? Here are some hypotheses.
First, thinking of The Lincoln Project as an extension of the Biden campaign reduces the extent of the Trump campaign’s online dominance.
Second, in the 2016 campaign and during his presidency, Trump built up a large, enthusiastic, and committed base. The viewcounts for the 2020 campaign reflect the ongoing support of the base. Even if it is being chipped away, as the public opinion polls suggest, it is still large enough to deliver the viewcounts.Third, the Biden campaign has enjoyed a huge advantage in funding and has been running many more television ads, particularly in swing states, as a recent analysis in The New York Times shows. Perhaps the Trump campaign, unable to compete on television ads, is disseminating its ads on social media, which is less expensive.
Third, the Biden campaign has enjoyed a huge advantage in funding and has been running many more television ads, particularly in swing states, as a recent analysis in The New York Times shows. Perhaps the Trump campaign, unable to compete on television ads, is disseminating its ads on social media, which is less expensive.
Fourth, I am somewhat suspicious of ads that get millions of views the day they are released and the next day their viewcounts stop increasing. The normal viewcount trajectory isn’t like that: it climbs more gradually before it peaks. Maybe the Trump campaign is fabricating views.
That’s what strikes me today. For the rest of the week leading to the election, I will keep watching the YouTube battle.
Monday, October 26, 2020
Death of a salesman
“We are coming around, we’re rounding the turn, we have the vaccines, we have everything. Even without the vaccines, we’re rounding the turn. It’s going to be over.”
Donald Trump, selling.
"He's a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back — that's an earthquake. And then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you're finished."
Arthur Miller's Death of a Salesman
Trump isn't finished. He is still selling.
Trump is an optimist who loves selling the sizzle, not the steak, and it has worked for him. He and his campaign have a new position. "We're not going to control the pandemic," his Chief of Staff said. COVID got away from us, and millions of us will get it, but it's all right because it really isn't that bad. Go live your life.
We do not yet know whether voters in the swing states will buy a second time from this guy. They have a choice between the shopworn candidate with the dreary message, or the salesman with spots on his hat.
I refer to Biden as shopworn and his message dreary, but mean no disrespect. I voted for him. He is old and familiar. Democrats chose him because they could not settle on a New and Improved version of him, so they took the old tried-and-true. Biden reflects the emotions I feel when taking some generally reliable medicine for a common malady: Tums for heartburn, Benadryl for the pollen allergies. I don't expect a miracle. There is nothing fun or surprising about the product, and I won't feel great afterwards, just relief at best, and back to however I felt before.
I have an entirely different feeling when buying a new car. A car purchase combines the feeling of getting rid of some old problem car and then the anticipation of new and improved. It is fun to buy a new car. A back up camera! Lumbar support! The new car smell! Sizzle.
Trump has more sizzle than ever for some Americans. He is even more feisty than many had hoped. He is a fighter, their fighter. Men in pickup trucks with flags and banners are shouting a big "F--- You" to the weenies in their masks and Priuses and their brainwashed belief in the mainstream media.
Trump is telling them what they want to hear about COVID--and what they believe. They agree with Trump that COVID isn't all that dangerous, except to people who were about to die anyway, and that the numbers of COVID deaths are phony. Trump told Laura Ingraham "Only 6% of the people died from COVID" because the rest "died from other reasons." That sounds about right to many people, including some people who comment on this blog. Even if Twitter takes down Trump's tweet that repeated that statistic because it spread mis-information--and Twitter did just that-- what Trump said and tweeted seems true in spirit. Few people personally know someone who had died from COVID. How bad could it be?
Meanwhile Biden, with his supporters in their masks and fuel efficient cars and grandmothers to worry about, says to listen to Dr. Fauci. Fauci says the virus is getting away from us, and the number of new cases grew from 50,000 to 65,000, and now 85,000 and hospitals are filling up, and that we need to be way better about masks and social distancing. Biden isn't sizzle. He is buzzkill. Biden is talking about car repairs. It is sensible but dreary.
Even the good news for the Biden campaign is no fun. Apparently hell has frozen over. The Manchester, New Hampshire Union Leader, the famously very conservative newspaper that makes Democrats furious and made Ed Muskie cry, just endorsed Joe Biden. He isn't the candidate we want, they said, but "he is the candidate we need." Faint praise, but praise. They don't believe the salesman with a mud-specked hat anymore.
Trump has a message on COVID: to power through it, take our hits, and make America great again. We are rounding the turn. Hope and change. Happy days are here again.
Trump has mud on his hat. The infections are ramping up at exactly the wrong time. People have noticed, and it's an earthquake. But his story is the better one, if only it were true.
Sunday, October 25, 2020
"Good chance COVID could kill me."
Government can't make you love your neighbor. Can it make you not kill him with your cough?
Ideas in conflict: Freedom, liberty, and self reliance at a time of a communicable disease.
Guest Post by Michael Trigoboff
Peter Sage’s post about responses to COVID described two possible approaches to the pandemic:
Golden Rule: attempt to save every life by shutting down all activities that could spread the virus without regard to economic or social costs.
Jonathan Haidt’s research on Moral Foundations tells us that there are fundamental differences between how liberals and conservatives evaluate issues like this. Liberals concentrate on avoiding harm; they would favor the Golden Rule approach. Conservatives pay attention to avoiding harm, but factor in a number of other considerations as well; they would favor the Utilitarian approach.
Liberals and conservatives are basically two different kinds of people, and no amount of discussion will turn one kind into the other kind.
We are currently polarized along this axis, and the polarization is intractable because neither side seems to realize that the folks on the other side are fundamentally different from them and their viewpoints are just as valid. The way out would be to stop demonizing each other, to recognize the differences, and to compromise. We are a long way from that, unfortunately.
I am 74 years old and currently recovering a month after coronary bypass surgery. If I were infected with COVID, there’s a really good chance that it would kill me. Since March, all of my socializing and teaching activities have been via Zoom. I only leave the house for doctors’ appointments.
Nevertheless, being of a somewhat conservative orientation, I tend to sympathize with the Utilitarian approach advocated by the Great Barrington Declaration. It does not make sense to me to shut down the social and economic lives of younger, healthier people and make them all live the way I need to. I will need to live this way regardless which policy is chosen, and the younger, healthier people deserve to have a chance to live something like more normal lives.
There is, however, a counter-argument to the Utilitarian approach: a significant number of younger people do suffer serious long-term consequences and even death from COVID. The death toll among all age groups resulting from the Utilitarian approach might prove to be unacceptably high.
Finally, many young people live in multi-generational households. Easing the restrictions on the those young people could put the older people who live with them at extreme risk.
And we do not yet know whether herd immunity is even possible. No one knows how long the immunity resulting from the infection lasts, or how strong it is. If herd immunity is not possible, the Utilitarian approach would result in many more deaths than its supporters assume.
I do not know what the right answer is. I am keeping an open mind.
Saturday, October 24, 2020
COVID triage. It's seniors' turn to die
"A man can die but once. We owe God a death, and let it go which way it will, he that dies this year is quit for the next."
Henry IV, Part 2 William Shakespeare
The USA has a policy of sacrificing old, sick people in order to spare the young and the economy. We just don't want to admit it.
The ethic of Utilitarianism is well known among students who have taken a college course in philosophy. Jeremy Bentham, 1748-1832, put the idea of Utilitarianism into coherent form. How to weigh the various moral consequences of any action? The best answer, he said, is summarized by a phrase: Do the greatest good for the greatest number.
The Great Barrington Declaration takes note of the reality that the social distancing rules have costs. Protecting seniors and the sick mean millions of schoolchildren are missing school and therefore education essential to their futures. It means millions of people who want to work cannot. It is disrupting landlord/tenant relations. It is pushing people into poverty, with all of poverty's current and long term consequences. It is exacerbating the problems of inequality, since many of the people least able to adjust to the new regimen are people already experiencing inequality, the working poor and their children.
Meanwhile, the people who could best be able to deal with social distancing and economic slowdowns are most likely to be out of the workforce, people getting pension and Social Security checks. They can shelter and protect themselves.
The Utilitarian idea focuses on the whole. By contrast, the Golden Rule ethic focuses on individual feelings, asking people how they would want to be treated, and few people would ask to be injured. The Golden Rule may work for guiding ones behavior toward family and neighbor, but for a national leader, it causes one to "err" on the side of compassion and avoiding direct injury.The Golden Rule is the ethical basis underlying policy of mass reduction of COVID spread, and the position advanced by Democrats. Look at the dead and injured. Think of them and their families. Don't hurt more people.
In actual practice, Americans have given up on mass suppression of COVID. Trump was certainly motivated by his re-election and maintaining a facade of COVID being harmless to protect the strong economy, but the result is that he backed into a Utilitarian policy of triage that sacrifices the old and sick for the benefit of the young, the healthy, and the economy.
He had choices. A mass COVID suppression program could have worked, with early and consistent buy-in from national leadership, with mask wearing, social distancing, shut-downs of social gatherings including church services and schools, plus testing and aggressive contact tracing. All those actions needed to have been affirmed as patriotic at the highest levels of government. There needed to be bipartisan buy-in. That didn't happen. A mass stop-the-spread policy cannot work if 35-40% of people think it is foolish and an affront to liberty and personal choice and a partisan signal of defeat to the opposite Party.
Trump is hinting at the actual policy with his I-feel-great comments and his unapologetic events that risk virus spread. White House behavior is body language messaging. "Don't let the virus dominate you," Trump says, in word and deed. But he is not laying out the actual policy because he is offering the fig leaf of it being non-fatal, there being therapies, and an imminent vaccine.
The simple reality is that as more people get virus, some percentage of extra people will die, concentrated among the old and unwell. It is politically unappealing to focus on the deaths, not the benefit to the people who continue to go to school and to work. Seniors vote, and there are a lot of seniors in Florida and Arizona, two states that Trump must win to be re-elected. If it were openly acknowledged that a half million seniors needed to die a just a few years early for the good of their fellow Americans, then people would be facing an ugly reality.
Americans eat meat, but they avert their eyes to the actions that take place in slaughterhouses. Some work gets done because people focus on the sirloin, not the death and dismemberment of the cow.
Trump says our COVID policy is about the injury from China, and about freedom and resisting Democratic governors, and not being over-cautious since great therapies and a vaccine are coming soon, and besides Dr. Fauci is probably a Democrat and there are second opinions that differ from his. Republican seniors in Florida and Arizona have that fig leaf to hold onto.
The reality is that the floodgates are opening and we hit a new high of infections yesterday. It is too late to stop mass spread. If Biden loses the election it will be because people realized that they disliked the COVID-related shutdown more than they hated Trump's tweets, and that if Biden were president it would mean more months of inconvenience, but if Trump were elected things would go back to normal.
"Normal" means that young people go to school, that workers go back to work, and that old people get sick and die, just like always.
Friday, October 23, 2020
Personal Journey from Goldwater to Biden
One person, one vote.
Guest Post by John Flenniken
My mother, recently widowed, felt the military was poorly served by Democrats. As was the family custom, we all voted Republican. My mother's brother became a Portland police officer at this time, and, yes, he was very Republican. I grew up supporting Republicans because that is what I heard at the kitchen table.
Debate: Trump was not a jerk
He wasn't an insufferable bully. Trump learned, took advice, and adjusted.
That Trump could be re-elected. The problem is that "normal" Trump made for a boring debate.
I returned e-mails during the debate and ate dinner. I write a political blog and watching the debate was work, so I stayed with it.
Last night we saw a reality that helps explain Trump's success, but also why Trump risks being a one-term president. The Trump Show is exhausting. It has devoted fans but it also turns people off.
Normally Trump is a whirling dervish of political theater, appealing to the resentments of his supporters, presenting bravado salesmanship of a can-do great America, with a great economy, the corner turned on COVID, jobs returned, all great again in America. Meanwhile liberals and Democrats are aghast. Some people want to cheer; some people want to tear their hair out. The people who cheer love the fact that those terrible liberal socialist woke coastal-elite baby-killing Democrats want to tear their hair out.
Last night we didn't get the Trump Show. We got something approximating a presidential debate. The CNN people are thrilled with explaining all Trump's lies and exaggerations and the Fox people are celebrating Trump's self discipline. The pundits and journalists have big exciting headlines, but they are trying too hard. They are pretending the debate really mattered.
It doesn't. Nobody cares.
People have already figured out how they feel about Trump, and Democratic and Republican ads are locking in those two views. Republicans say Trump is great and Biden is corrupt. Democrats say Trump messed things up and Biden is decent. Insofar as the debate matters even a little, the question was whether Biden would prove inept beside Trump. Biden was OK. He seemed tongue tied at times and we saw him stutter. Democrats who had watched Obama the night before could not help notice the contrast between the fluent and eloquent Obama and the Biden who could only articulate a position with clarity when he was looking at the camera and doing a set piece. Biden is no Obama.
But this isn't an election about Biden. It is about whether people can stand four more years of Trump's behavior.
Biden is good enough. So was the Trump we saw last night, appearing more or less presidential, actively defending his record the way a president and candidate would. But that Trump was not convincing as the "new Trump" and in any case the normal, presidential Trump isn't all that interesting. That's the problem for Trump. To be interesting enough to change people's minds about him, he would need to be the old, outrageous Trump.
Would a low information/low engagement undecided voter watch much of it, hoping to get a measure of each man? I suspect not. Even political bloggers like me could barely stick with it.