tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1437688200491675121.post5556789306921731770..comments2024-03-27T23:13:46.033-07:00Comments on Up Close, with Peter Sage: Sacco and Vanzetti: Execution SongUp Close: Road to the White Househttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03590477200706751934noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1437688200491675121.post-51397978569277239752022-08-18T01:09:08.738-07:002022-08-18T01:09:08.738-07:00Hiss may've been an asset, a source of informa...Hiss may've been an asset, a source of information, without having been a spy.<br />The Greenglasses were guilty of low-level atomic espionage; Julius of industrial but not atomic espionage; Ethel of nothing. <br />NY City's City Council has exonerated her. <br />(The NCRRC was dissolved, after achieving that goal.) <br />So-called evidence of Sacco's possible guilt has been traced to the bitterness felt by Tresca and Moore when the latter was fired from the case. It has no basis in truth and has been repeatedly refuted. I brought this up at the meeting of the Sacco-Vanzetti Memorial Committee last night, and was told that the late Bob d'Attilio had said it was no longer even worth addressing. Yet it still comes up, and is simply wrong. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14399215216133486560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1437688200491675121.post-22942780880155617542022-08-17T10:18:14.176-07:002022-08-17T10:18:14.176-07:00This reminds me of the delicious line in the Frenc...This reminds me of the delicious line in the French movie "Z" when one of the uniformed fascists is being hauled off to jail and a reporter shouts, "Are you falsely accused, like Dreyfus?" and the fascist yells back, "Dreyfus was guilty!"<br /><br />Great comments on Rosenburg (guilty) and Hiss (guilty), as apt comparisons.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1437688200491675121.post-33031499490201875532022-08-16T17:50:15.033-07:002022-08-16T17:50:15.033-07:00Which raises the question: If the trial is a sham ...Which raises the question: If the trial is a sham and the evidence questionable, why would you presume the defendant is guilty? Mikenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1437688200491675121.post-62140462075825890552022-08-16T17:37:11.286-07:002022-08-16T17:37:11.286-07:00Unknown @ 9:34, assuming it’s the poster, Mr. Lehr...Unknown @ 9:34, assuming it’s the poster, Mr. Lehrman? <br /><br />Mr. Trigoboff has already covered the intercepted Soviet material which when finally released to the public implicated Hiss and Rosenberg as spies.<br /><br />Sacco’s alibi witnesses were put up to lie by his anarchist colleagues, according to the subsequent confession of at least one of those witnesses.<br /><br />The weight of informed opinion is behind Sacco’s likely guilt, though it is generally acknowledged the full truth one way or the other will remain unknown.<br /><br />That’s not to discount the repugnant miscarriage of justice at S & V’s expense. It means some post-war leftist shibboleths do not pass muster.Low Dudgeonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1437688200491675121.post-27491036370503747522022-08-16T11:05:13.352-07:002022-08-16T11:05:13.352-07:00Regarding atomic secrets, after the Soviet Union f...Regarding atomic secrets, after the Soviet Union fell and the KGB vault opened, we learned the extent of Soviet penetration into the Manhattan Project. Stalin knew almost as soon as FDR the details of the Trinity shot. This knowledge reveals the difficultly prosecuting espionage and treason cases like Hess and the Rosenbergs by the Federal government. Secrets may stay buried and witnesses disappear, as is the case with successful espionage.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1437688200491675121.post-46347453775510134462022-08-16T11:01:52.678-07:002022-08-16T11:01:52.678-07:00The Venona Intercepts clearly show that Julius Ros...The <a href="https://www.nsa.gov/Helpful-Links/NSA-FOIA/Declassification-Transparency-Initiatives/Historical-Releases/Venona/" rel="nofollow">Venona Intercepts</a> clearly show that Julius Rosenberg was guilty of nuclear espionage for the USSR.<br /><br />They also contain strong evidence that Alger Hiss was a Soviet spy.Michael Trigoboffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15963411902988772339noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1437688200491675121.post-49983052555792558902022-08-16T09:34:10.633-07:002022-08-16T09:34:10.633-07:00Sacco could not have been guilty, as he was not th...Sacco could not have been guilty, as he was not there. Alibi witnesses were discounted because of prejudice against Italians. (This is clearly shown in the opera.) Witnesses to the crime mistook Joe Morelli for him - this is clearly shown in Reginald Rose's TV documentary, and Herbert Ehrmann's books. Read more at saccoandvanzetti.org<br /><br />I met Alger Hiss twice and started an opera on him with Kim Rich. Still looking for a commission: The Puffin Foundation has ok'd every proposal I've ever made to them, since 1991, except for this one. <br /><br />The Rosenbergs were innocent of atomic espionage, as shown in Walter Schneir's THE FINAL VERDICT. Blitzstein's sister told me he was thinking of the Rosenbergs, writing the opera he called his "magnum opus." My cantata on their Death House Letters, WE ARE INNOCENT, has had a dozen performances, and is quoted in the penultimate scene of SACCO AND VANZETTI.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14399215216133486560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1437688200491675121.post-72671399438224107662022-08-16T08:16:08.120-07:002022-08-16T08:16:08.120-07:00Justice works in mysterious ways, its blunders to ...Justice works in mysterious ways, its blunders to perform? In school I did a lengthy study of the Sacco and Vanzetti case, after having been transfixed by the Upton Sinclair account, "Boston". <br /><br />The prosecution and trial were a shameful mockery of due process. Toss in the passionate and eloquent written protestations of Vanzetti, and the legend of their unassailable innocence grew.<br /><br />As with Alger Hiss and the Rosenbergs, though, the truth is a bit more complicated. In the mid-'80s a new report concluded Vanzetti was an innocent sacrifice but Sacco was guilty as sin.<br /><br />The exact wording of the Dukakis declaration in 1977 treads carefully on actual/factual innocence. They were indeed "unfairly convicted and executed", just as stated. Justice, and injustice?Low Dudgeonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1437688200491675121.post-36703085506755433852022-08-16T07:43:49.591-07:002022-08-16T07:43:49.591-07:00So many people have been persecuted and killed in ...So many people have been persecuted and killed in this country because of bigotry and hatred, and it still goes on. Not long ago, a white nationalist drove 200 miles to a Black neighborhood in Buffalo and murdered 10 Blacks in a grocery store. But bring up diversity, equity and inclusion and the right-wing freaks out: Critical Race Theory! They’re indoctrinating our children!! <br /><br />It's gotten to the point that most Republicans seem to think anti-racism is racist.<br />Michael Steelynoreply@blogger.com